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Old 04-11-2008, 07:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Update (at the risk of everyone here thinking I'm a total nutcase):

After conversations with two Clarion dealers, they convinced me that my problem -- the iPod always returning to track #1 -- was because I did not buy the Clarion unit specific for the Suzuki. Like an idiot, I took the bait, and ordered another Clarion EA1251B from a Suzuki dealer in Texas. It looked the same as the "generic" EA1251 I bought off of eBay, but, I thought optimistically, maybe the electronics inside are different.

Wrong. It does exactly the same thing: No matter what playlist I'm on, no matter what song I'm on, if I leave the car off for more than a few hours (I don't know the exact number, but it's more than two and less than eight), the iPod always returns to track #1. The only way to get back to the song I was last listening to is to push the up button on the Suzuki head unit -- and with my little 8GB Nano, that could be 1,200 pushes.

SO, I ripped the Clarion out, and put Tim's cable back in.

I now own *two* Clarion EA1251 units that I'd be happy to sell, but I live in Panama, so shipping would be a problem. Personally, I think Clarion released a dog with the EA1251; what's the point of having an iPod if you can't use or replicate any of the iPod's controls?

As a side note, I see that Clarion has come out with a new, smaller interface, called the CCA iPod. I don't know for sure if it will work with Suzuki head units, but it appears so. Crutchfield has it for $49.99; *however*, when I called Crutchfield the tech rep/sales guy I spoke with confirmed that it would behave the same as the EA1251: Power down, return to track #1. (Nice of him to be so honest, since I was ready to buy a *third* Clarion unit. Yes, I already admitted I'm hopelessly stupid.)

As I said before, with Tim's cable setup, I do not get the automatic power-off that the Clarion provides, and I do not get artist/title display in the Suzuki head unit, but the iPod is still completely in charge: I can pause, shuffle, change playlists, play by album or artist, move quickly to any song, and always start exactly where I left off (as long as I remember to push Pause on the iPod when I turn the car off).

Now if Tim could just figure out how to give me an auto-pause-and-power-down feature on his cable, I'd be completely, idiotically happy.

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Old 05-19-2008, 01:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well it's been over a month but I finally got around to looking into the problem with crappy sound on the right side. The problem is that the pin-out that is posted is not correct for my unit. I have a 2008 in Canada. The left channel and the ground need to be reversed.

So this is what works for me;

_ _TL
_ TGR

Where T is "trigger", G is "ground", L is "left" and R is "right".

Problem solved..... sounds great now.
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Old 06-14-2008, 07:43 AM   #23 (permalink)
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You can connect both the cable and the EA125 iPod interface, they use different connectors on the back of the stereo.

The AUX cable is just an audio input, you cannot connect a USB stick to it.

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Old 06-19-2008, 11:08 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hi acapforum,

The Clarion EA125 iPod interface will only work with the Clarion CeNet equiped deck (the model number on the front of the stereo will be CLCRxx). If you have a European style connector, odds are you have a Panasonic radio (Model number on the front of the stereo will be something like PACR01 or PACR02). If you do have the Panasonic stereo, a company called Connect2 makes an interface for you.

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Old 06-20-2008, 12:12 AM   #25 (permalink)
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But I have a unit form Dension, but it was made for Europien vehicles and in NZ I can not connect to my Clarion unit. That is why I'm thinking about to get the pinaout the Clarion CDC socket and make a connector somehow...

THX again!
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:14 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Hi acapforum,

So far, no one has been able to hack the Clarion CeNet interface

I don't see any way of making the Dension unit work with your stereo.

It would be easier to just get the EA125B off of ebay

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Old 08-10-2008, 12:02 AM   #27 (permalink)
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FYI,

As of last weekend I have the Bluetooth working using the Clarion BLT370 and a custom interface cable that plugs into the AUX socket on the back of the radio

The BLT370 has very good audio streaming and a telephone interrupt when a call is received. The stereo will even turn itself on for the duration of a Bluetooth call.

The only down side is you loose the external AUX input as the streaming function takes over that input. I have tried just putting a "Y" connector in line between the Bluetooth and an MP3 input.
This works, but your MP3 will continue to play overtop of a phone call if it comes in.

You press the "CD/AUX" button for the audio streaming input.
When a phone call comes in, the interrupt will automatically switch the radio over to "TELEPHONE" mode, no matter what source you are using (Radio, CD, or AUX streaming).

One thing I have noticed is that if you are using the AUX mode when a call comes in, the stereo will switch to either radio or CD after the call is finished, it does not return to AUX. you have to press the "CD/AUX" button again to continue the audio streaming.

The interface cable supplies the power for the BLT370 as well.

I have also tried the interface cable with the Motorola 605. The 605 also has very good audio streaming, plus the added advantage of having an external AUX input. The biggest downside is that it requires an external speaker for the telephone call... it does not have a low level RCA output for the telephone (??). I don't know what Motorola was thinking with that one.

The interface will work with the 2007-2009 SX4 and GV. I can also make an interface cable for the 2006 GV, but it will require an external power source for the BLT370.

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FYI,

I have also tried the interface cable with the Motorola 605. The 605 also has very good audio streaming, plus the added advantage of having an external AUX input. The biggest downside is that it requires an external speaker for the telephone call... it does not have a low level RCA output for the telephone (??). I don't know what Motorola was thinking with that one.
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The Motorola T605 DOES seem to have low level line ouputs for the phone. See manual here. Instructions say you don't need the speaker if you use the orange and blue wires.

I don't know what each of the wires in the 5-wire Suzuki harness are, but if you could make a cable to interface with that Suzuki harness, plus provide some connection for low-level phone input and muting input, then I'd bet you could make a cable for the T605 that would do everything, including a muted hard-wire aux input via the T605 input jack.

What do you think?

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Robin,

I did not get any signal output on the orange and blue wires when I was testing it, but I think it might be because I had the external speaker plugged in at the same time. I'm going to do some more testing tomorrow night and see if I can get a line level phone signal.

If I can get a line level signal to work, I might be able to just piggy back it into the left AUX input as the 605 control unit automatically mutes both the AUX and streaming audio when a call comes in.

I'll keep you posted.

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Scrubb,

The external speaker output is about 1 watt, so I think I could just run it through a capacitor to bring it down to line level (just above 1 volt output on max volume).

Robin,

I did get the line level output to work by piggy backing it into the AUX input, but the output level is so low you have to turn the volume way up to get a good level (it hardly has 300mv of output at max). This is why I did not think I had any output whan I first tested it

I think tapping the speaker output and just trimming it down a little is the best option. I'm going to test that out tomorrow.

I'll keep you posted,

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