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Old 10-20-2010, 12:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Timing chain a problem!!

My 2007 XL7 currently has 80 000 KMS or approx. 50 000 miles. My engine light came on a few weeks ago but would only come on for a short time then go off for a period of time. I checked the code and it came up as a P008, something to do with the crank or cam shaft timing. But since the light was not staying on permanently I thought it might just be a problem with the sensor itself. About 2 weeks later the light came on and stayed on. The truck seemed to be running fine and have not noticed any lack of performance. I brought it to the Suzuki dealer this morning to find out that the timing chains need to be changed. I was told that this is a problem/flaw with these motors. The parts have been ordered and my vehicle will be spending 2-3 days next week. This is all covered under the powertrain warranty. I did ask if I should expect the same problem 80 000 KMS later and they said probably not since they are replacing the parts with what is suppose to better quality parts from Suzuki. I am not impressed at all with this problem and I will probably get rid of this vehicle by next year. I have lost confidence with this vehicle!
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've never heard of a P008 code.

What or how did they determine that you need chains?? If your engine was properly maintained and treated, that's bunk!

I've got 243,000 miles on mine.
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Hello,
Can you please let us all know how they came up with that...?
Like what did they write on the work order....?
I have never heard of that code either see....
So keep us up to date please.

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The code is a DTC P0008 "Engine Position System Performance Bank 1".There are actually 3 timing chains. This code activates if there is a misalignment at an idler sprocket for either bank or at the crankshaft. I believe this problem is only on 2007 and newer XL7's. Apparently there is so much tension on these chains that they do actually stretch which will eventually cause problems so I am told. I will update more when I bring the vehicle in next week. I will ask more questions to find out more about this.
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OK, add an extra "0" to the code and it's camshaft related. I understand now.

http://www.suzuki-forums.com/2g-2007...gine-code.html

Still rather odd for a low mileage engine needing chain replacement though.
The problem could just as easily be the CPS (Cam Position Sensor) OR the wiring / connector to it. I wouldn't rule out an ECU issue either.
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Yup. They stretch.. I've replaced tons of them. Some less than 40,000 km
If you put the old ones next to the new ones you can actually see about 1/2" difference.
I've seen one get bad enough to skip a tooth!
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I've replaced tons of them.
You're kidding! So much so that the tensioners don't accommodate for wear?

Is this excessive stretch phenomenon peculiar to the later produced 2.7's only?
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No.. Not the 2.7s..
This is particular to the '07+ xl7 with the GM style 3.6
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Wow. Rather discouraging, huh.
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No.. Not the 2.7s..
This is particular to the '07+ xl7 with the GM style 3.6
How do you find out if you have the GM style 3.6? I need to know if I have this problem to look forward to/watch out for, as well. SMH
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