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Old 10-27-2010, 10:23 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Welcome Sbrule!

If the GM variant 3.6, you'd better wait on Lumpylarry to chime in. The more I think about it, that's proly what you are dealing with.

Edit: I just realized that you jumped in on an existing post.


Go here for 2.5 / 2.7 supportive info if you have the earlier engine....

http://www.suzuki-forums.com/1g-1999...nsioner-7.html

http://www.suzuki-forums.com/1g-2001...placement.html

http://www.suzuki-forums.com/1g-2001...ain-cover.html

http://www.mediafire.com/file/njnmwj...0Timing%20.pdf
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You will first need to identify whether it's a 3rd or 4th design engine before ordering the parts.
Have the service manual and special tools to lock the cams.
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Old 10-27-2010, 02:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hey, this is the friendliest forum I've ever been on! Thanks guys.

I gave the vin to the parts dept at a local dealership. They sent me some diagrams to go by.

Cam locks I can prob come up with. Just getting at the crank pulley now...haven't seen a keyway like that before.
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Why this is not being replaced under warranty?
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Old 10-27-2010, 03:40 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Eh.. dunno, He asked me to do it. Its all apart now..

So I'm looking at everything, chains are still on yet till I lock the cams. You recommend just chains then or do you guys do the rails etc as well? I'll be inspecting everything carefully of course.



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You can do just the chains.
That's not a keyway, there's another special tool that fits on there to prevent you from rotating backwards "the chains will jump"

There are 2 stages for installing the chains..
After all chains are off you will need to rotate the crank and left cams to position "a".
Do the cams first otherwise if you turn the crank it WILL hit valves.
Once cams are in neutral position then go ahead and turn the crank..
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Ok, I'm just purchasing alldata, will read their procedure and overlay yours. Really appreciate your help. I'll be finishing up tomorrow or friday depending if the chains are in stock.
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Eh.. dunno, He asked me to do it. Its all apart now..

So I'm looking at everything, chains are still on yet till I lock the cams. You recommend just chains then or do you guys do the rails etc as well? I'll be inspecting everything carefully of course.



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Not trying to be an ass or to take food from your table, but can you tell us the mileage on the vehicle? I presume the owner never took it to the dealer?
The chains (if in good condition) are supposed to last the life of the engine right?
After them being replaced, will they stretch at a faster rate than usual or the problem is only with the OEM chains?
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Hey, this is the friendliest forum I've ever been on! Thanks guys.
There are a great bunch of folks on here. We (I) only request one thing.

If you could post some pics, "How To", Tips or lessons learned, that would be GREAT, and would certainly help out with the 3.6 support!

IF you can't host pics on line, I'd be happy to do that for you and I can PM you my e-mail address if you'd like.
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You guys are a good bunch, wish I had a Suzuki!

As far as a write up, I'll try to take some pics, but my work is piling up - small garage.

Ya I had allot of trouble with the parts depts wanting to help me at first. Seems they were pretty miffed about the possibility of a warranty.

Car has under 100k and could be covered under warranty if he has all his oil change records (they told me that part only after they knew they weren't getting the job).
I called Suzuki about independent shop work and customer reimbursement - they said no. Called my friend and he said "get the parts, do it" - good friend and more money than allot of folks put together. Car is basically just a toy for him.

Also found out Suzuki has allot of trouble with stocking the chains. One parts guy had a list of GM vehicles that used the same ones and at half the price of Suzuki's. I decided to go with factory for the documentation in case it might be of use later. One cross reference was an 09 Chevy Equinox. ( evidently I have the later engine for 07 Xl-7s btw )

I should have the chains tomorow. Let you guys know how its going. Thanks again!

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