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Old 02-16-2013, 04:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys,

Does anyone have a list of diff ratios for the gv?

For interest sake has anyone thought about doing live axle swaps to the ngv? with the earlier vitara its a mod people have done to the front, was thinking in the future when the ngv is getting on in age and are cheap and people are not that fussed at attacking it with a grinder and welder it might be a good mod.

first i was thinking a rear axle setup out of a earlier gv might be a easy mod which would allow a air locker to be fitted i think the earlier gv's had about a 300mm short track but could be fixed with spacers and should be fairly straight forward to weld a few mounts to the chassis for the trailing arms.

then to the extreme also could use hilux diffs front and rear, I noticed doing some trolling even the newest irs hiluxs they are doing live axle conversion.

something to think about, whats people thoughts?
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whats people thoughts?
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why be a sheep when you could have something different and go everywhere the sheep go in there landpatrols?
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why be a sheep when you could have something different and go everywhere the sheep go in there landpatrols?
You're mad... I like it..

I've always wanted to stick an LS3 in mine once the OEM dies of old age...
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why be a sheep when you could have something different and go everywhere the sheep go in there landpatrols?
because the trouble is not worth the reward.
You asked for thoughts. hold off on your insults please.


by all means, go ahead.
i would love to follow your build.

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I've always wanted to stick an LS3 in mine once the OEM dies of old age...
AHA.. and then paint the car red I suppose
I'd be proposing a nice nine-inch with a cooler shade of blue if you don't mind
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because the trouble is not worth the reward.
You asked for thoughts. hold off on your insults please.


by all means, go ahead.
i would love to follow your build.
it was not an insult just saying why i would rather not invest in another car. 4x4s are all about mods and the trouble would be heaps worth it. gain lower ratios and being able to run a locker plus alot more travel and being able to run larger lift without breaking cv's can run larger tires

i was just a idea to think about. so i did some research about what would be a good swap for the rear.

I found this which has the diff ratios of the various gv's

Suzuki-GrandVitara.info - Transmissionratio

atm i have the 2ltr man with 4.1 diff ratio so was thinking about getting a front diff from a newer 3door 2.4ltr which has the 5.125 diffs and then finding a rear housing from a 98-2005 gv with the 4link setup and getting a centre from a pre 98 with the 5.125 ratios which can take the locker, reading around the place the post 98 cant take the arb lockers but i think there might be a electric type that suits it so if thats the case would just get a 98-05 diff from a swb which also has the 5.125 ratio...

i think fitting the 90-05 gv rear axle could be made to all bolt upto the chassis. might have to cut the mounts off the diff and weld in different positions but you might be able to mount the lower control arms straight to the standrd positon on the chassis and the spring mount could reuse as with the stock mounts on the body. then would just need to make a bracket to bolt to the chassis to hold the top panhard mount and could bolt on a cross member with some mounts for the upper control arms...

another option would be to get front diff out of a v6 auto with the 4.3 ratio and a hilux with 4.3 ratio that way if eva want to swap front to live axle easy to match ratios with hilux diffs.

if anyone has seen this it goods a good idea of what can be done

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stuck my head under the gv this arvo, 4link would be trouble since the fuel tank is where you would want to mount the upper arms. so could prob do a radius arm setup like the coil spring bundera. but i had one and they arnt well knowen for flex so prob not the best idea. so put that on the back burner.

so now thinking maybe just getting some 5.125 gears from the wreckers can get 2 whole diffs for $1000 then could pull the spares apart and workout if i can machine something up to get a locker in there. also being alloy housings not sure would really want them as lockers...back to the drawing board, still keen to do subframe drop to get a 3inch lift and keep the cvs alrite then can upgrade to a larger tire.
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i admire your interest in lockers, most supplier are not interested in lockers for our GV so if you find a solution i think alot of people will be interested!
even a part time kit would be awesome for our GVs.. sick of rolling around in 4wd! tim from oda managed to get us an xrox bullbar! so perhaps see if he can pull a few more strings?

best of luck!
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part time 4x4? could prob pull transfer case apart and make it part time since its just a lsd might be as easy as pulling friction pads out or something. then should still lock with the pin when switching to 4x4

I just don't think the alloy housing would last with locker the front ones break on the earlier models without lockers the housing is a stressed member tho the new ones have more support.

so thinking about solid axle ideas. could do radius arms but they don't keep the pinion at correct angles. chewed up a uni in a bundy I had after I lifted it. prob would be ok if it was setup to correct angle at static height. actually would be pretty easy and could make it a bolt on kit using existing mounts I reckon. would need new tail shaft with slip joint tho. but end of the day still can only lift the front 50mm without it blowing up. so might get bit more travel in the rear and stronger rear with locker. prob not worth it for now.
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