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Old 04-26-2008, 02:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all
This has probably been discussed before but can anyone help?
I have now just got round to replacing front and rear door speakers after the expense of renewing the head unit.But taking the door panels off without damaging them looks a bit tuff indeed.Has anybody tackled this task successfully,if so could you let me know where to start.I like to do these kind of things myself and changing the head unit was fairly easy once i got the silver facings off.

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We have the 2008 Grand Vitara JX model, which came with very cheap speakers. The dealer refused to replace the speakers with after-market, so we decided to do it ourselves. They told us that replacement clips for the door panel are $2 a piece, so we decided to get a bag of 10, just in case. However, we didn't wait for the bag to be mailed to us, and went for replacing the speakers without the replacement clips. We ended up not breaking a single clip, and the job went very well and it sounds awesome.

We did the rear doors first. Using a flat head screw driver with electrical tape wrapped around the tip of it, to not damage the car, remove screw cover located where inside door handle is. With a slow twisting motion, it will simply snap off and is replaced just by applying slight pressure. Under it is a philips screw, (look like plus sign). Remove this screw first. To remove the door panel, we gripped at the bottom of the panel on either side at the bottom part of panel. Use your knee to stop door from coming towards you, with door in full open position. This might sound strange, but it comes off better to NOT be slow at pulling on it. Give a firm yank straight out from the door. Some plastic clips will stay in the door. That's o k. You will need needle-nose pliers to remove them. By not squeezing the thin disc, place pliers between the first and second disc and holding firmly, but not too tight, pull it out of the door using slight wiggling motion to re-install on panel where it mounts to. You will surely see where it mounts to, the clips just slide onto panel for installation onto the door. Make sure when you pull on the panel, you don't pull farther than probably a foot away from the door, as the panel is attached to the door still at the top near the window, and most importantly, by wires to operate the power locks and window. Once the panel is away from the door at the bottom, lift whole panel straight up to release from door completely. Some of the doors we did not unplug the wires. It helps very much to do this with a person who can hold the door panel while you unplug the wires or even to hold the panel vertically while u change the speaker.

When you remove the old speaker, the wires have a sheath to protect them, however, this sheath is not waterproofed by the manufacturer, and you should expect water to be in the sheath with the speaker wires. We emptied the water as much as we could, and after installing new speakers, we used electrical tape to waterproof it totally. The speakers we chose did not line up perfectly with the mounting holes in door, DO NOT DRILL THE SPEAKER TO INSTALL if this happens to you. DRILL THE CAR DOOR. If you drill the speaker, metal shavings will fall into the voice coil and destroy the speaker. We removed the green mounting pieces and had plenty of room to mount the new speaker. We have 6.5 inch speakers in the door, I'm guessing yours is the same. The old speakers were 25 watt / 4 ohm and paper cone, a sad excuse for a speaker. I expect most people will have to replace their speakers within 5 years. We replaced them with 200 watt / 4 ohm speakers. It is important to keep the ohm rating the same. Most cars have ohm ratings of 4 to 6, while homes have systems of 8 to 16 ohms. Bose radios use 2 ohm, so unless you have a Bose head unit, use 4 ohm speakers for Suzuki.

I suggest removing all the door panels first, and this is for just in case you do break a mounting clip, you can decide which door to take clips from and where. It gives you options that you wouldn't have if you try one door at a time.

I also suggest keeping the key in the vehicle if you have the proximity keyless ignition. We had the key unit away from the vehicle and it cut power to the car while we were testing the speakers one by one after replacing each speaker. We thought we made a short somewhere, and it ended up just being that the key wasn't near the vehicle constantly. Smart cars can be so stupid, ya know?

Reinstalling the panel is as easy as placing it slightly above where it mounts and making sure it fits into door sill near window snugly and sliding downwards. Check from side to see that clips are lining up and plug wires to connect power locks and window. Then firmly pound with closed fist to reset the clips into the door. You will know they are all in place if you don't have bulges in door. Please be sure to look at the clips to see if they are pointing at the hole in door, as it is possible to have one miss and bend and possibly break, requiring you to remove the panel again.

Good luck and I hope you enjoy the new sound as much as we do.
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I can't thank you enough for that imformation,that was very kind of you to go into so much detail regarding this matter.
I'll let you know how i get on once i've chosen the correct spekers(this may take a while).

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no problem. I wish somebody would have told us what to expect. It wasn't too hard but doing this alone may be a challenge. Suzuki does have a great radio, but I did file a complaint about those very poor quality speakers. Let all Suzuki buyers beware...CHANGE THE SPEAKERS. Please let us know how you do. I'm happy to be able to help and am glad I joined this forum.
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When mounting the new speakers you can use an 1inch spacer.

Are you mounting tweeters too?
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I was not sure if i could wire up to the existing tweeters or not.I was also thinking of just renewing the lot for a better sound quality.
Thought about insulating the doors to keep the sound in aswell.

Too many decisions

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If you can ($$$$) mount component speakers. You can secure the crossover under the arm rest. Tie it with zip ties.

To hold the tweeter in place cut a piece of plastic (a strip from a Quick box is ok) and use it to hold the new (and possibly bigger) tweeter in place.
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Thanks for the advise,that's a damm good idea for the mounting of the crossover,i never thought of that.

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Thanks for the advise,that's a damm good idea for the mounting of the crossover,i never thought of that.

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HAHAHAHAHA Glad it make your job easier.
I spent 4 hours just looking where I was going to put it.

ahh just another tip
Use speakers boots on all four. It helps to protect the speakers from water, dirt, etc. Route the cable under the boot.
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This was not one of my better ideas,i think i'll book it in somewhere to be done,the job sounds like a right pain in the a***.
When i decide to do something,it's never simple.
We have a few good car audio shops which specialize in this kind of aftermarket entertaiment.

Thanks for everybody's information on this matter.

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