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Old 11-18-2006, 09:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi. I searched the forum (since I am sure this has been asked before) but I could not find information on how to remove the rear drums on a 2001 XL-7. I took the wheel off and went looking for the access window to loosen the shoes (these must be self adjusting brakes) and I could not find anything that resembles a rubber boot or a knockout on the rear backer plate. I did find threaded holes in the front surface of the drums but I do want to blindly thread in the proper bolt since am concerned about tearing the shoe retainer pins if this is how you are suppose to remove the drums (back them off by threading a bolt into the drum) since the rear brakes have 85K on them and most likely have a ridge that would fight brute removal. I am also not sure if there is a specific position the drum must be in before using the thread hole. Unfortunately my local library not longer has the Chilton on-line manuals as part of their on-line database (something I will miss and will be questioning them about since it is one of my favorite applications of my property tax dollars). Sorry if this is redundant.... help please?

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Old 11-18-2006, 06:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have seen this discussed before and was told to put in bolts in the 2 holds and tighten to push the drum away from the axle..
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Thanks for the reply. Do you remember if there was any mention of orientation of the drum before tightenting the bolts to back off the drums?
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no I do not.... I would suspect that if it does push against the axle flange it should not matter..
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Rear Brake Drums:

Hoist Car
Remove Wheel
Take rear centre consol cover off (in between seats)
Loosen handbrake adjuster nut
Insert 2 x 8 mm bolts into holes in drum (any position)
your on.
Don't forget to adjust handbrake when you're done

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thanks Doc!
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the information.
Got the drums off fine.
That 8mm bolt is a thoughtful feature!
Plenty of life on the shoes and the drum is wearing nicely.
I am pleased that with 86K the rear brakes have shoe life left.
The 8mm came in very handy removing the front disks.
I put in the second pair of pads and I thought I would have them turned this time.
There was plently of life left in the disks and they turned nicely (once I found a shop that could handle the 108mm hub diameter).

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Any tips for what to do if the threaded holes on the brake drum become stripped?

I was watching this video: Axle Bearings 96 Suzuki Sidekick and at about the 2:40 mark, he just whacked the drum with a hammer and the drum popped off. This doesn't work on my 2002 Grand Vitara.
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Hmmm...a search should have brought up this thread:
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/1g-1999...s-learned.html

EDIT: Whoa! That was a 2006 posting / request! My bad.


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Any tips for what to do if the threaded holes on the brake drum become stripped?
Soak the drum centers overnight w/penetrating oil and break out the hammer in the A.M.

Or if you are handy and have the next larger thread size tap (US or Metric), you could carefully use a "bottoming" tap to create a new set of (larger) threaded holes. If by chance you drill a little too deep into the flange section, in won't hurt anything. You may need to chamfer slightly your jacking bolt ends so that they don't "thread" into any new / minor tapped portion of the flange.

Another option is to drill and tap another set of holes 90 degrees from the existing. It would be easier to open up the existing holes though to a larger size. Either scenario is tough to do, given the relative thin drum material and the axle flange right behind it. It will take machinist expertise and patience.
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Hmmm...a search should have brought up this thread:
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/1g-1999...s-learned.html

EDIT: Whoa! That was a 2006 posting / request! My bad.
Yeah, I spent about 30 minutes searching this board looking for this answer. I don't see the answer in the thread you linked, though. I also researched some info on replacing the seal on the axle. Trying to decide if it's a job I can tackle. I think I can do it, but I don't have a seal press, a seal remover or a hub/axle remover, so I will probably struggle.

Anyway, thanks for the idea on tapping larger holes. I'm not much of a tapping expert, but I tried tapping some new threads earlier today and thought things were going well and then suddenly broke out my newly tapped threads. aargh. I think I should probably buy a new drum for that side so that I can just replace it when/if I ever manage to pull the old one off.
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