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Old 09-14-2011, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone. I need to call on your expertise again to make sure I'm not getting hung out to dry by my mechanic.

I have a 2002 Chevy Tracker ZR2, which as most of you know, is essentially the same as a 2002 Suzuki Grand Vitara. It's a 2.5L V6 with an automatic transmission. If you need any more info, let me know. I posted not that long ago when I first bought the vehicle and since then I've had mixed results with it. The previous owner clearly didn't believe in the same level as maintenance as I do. Lots of small things, nothing major. Until now, at least...

Basically, the problem is that I took my truck to my usual mechanic (been my mechanic for years) and asked him to check if there were any leaks and to look into a noise I have going on in the back. He said he found that the water pump was leaking antifreeze. I already know he's unfamiliar with the truck and, to be honest, I think he may be unfamiliar with trucks in general. I mostly only see cars when I'm there and I've only ever owned cars up to now. He tells me that the labor to replace the water pump is going to be 11+ hours and that the water pump itself is $200+. He did admit that typically the job is 3, maybe 4 hours and the average water pump is only $100 or so. He says that the water pump is located in a really awful place and he's going to have to do a lot to get it out.

Does this all check out? Why is the labor for this particular vehicle so high? If anyone can give me any information, advice, or help, I would really appreciate it. I'm enjoying my Suzuki Tracker, but this all sounds a little crazy to me.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would get a new mechanic ASAP.
You did NOT specificy what motor you have, that might change the pump who knows... look for your motor model and match it up...
He's asking you for money and an arm..
Labor is never going to be that much... Is he going to rebuild your motor or something????
2002 CHEVROLET TRACKER Water Pump
2002 CHEVROLET TRACKER Water Pump
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Check what engine you have and match...

I haven't done it but I think changing a pump is not that hard... never EVER 11 hours...
Let's wait and see for Max and Phillip but I think you should kick this guys arse!
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You did mention 2.5l engine..
These waterpumps do take a little more time compared to most other vehicles as they are located in behind the timing cover

It's true that the book time for job lists at somewhere around 8.5 hrs.
But that time includes removing front diff, oil pan, intake, valve covers etc..
If you shop around you can find someone with a little experience on these engines that
will be willing to do it for around 5..
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I even bet your local Suzuki dealer will give you a better quote than that..
Also, if I were doing the job, I'd throw in a #1 chain tensioner just for fun..
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OMG LOL xD I had a deadline to hand in something and didn't read it all that well... xD
So, my bad for that.
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The water pump is pictured in the center (with the 4 bolts on it's flange) as shown here with the front timing cover removed.



It's rather buried and significant interference needs to be removed to access the WP.

Larry...does one really need to drop the oil pan (and diff if so equipped) to gain access? I thought not.

Water pumps...$31 bucks and up.

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No. Not necessary. I don't even take off the intake or valve covers.
But the book tells you to because of the tight fit against the timing cover..

In reality it can be done in under 2 hrs but I don't know anyone that's will do it for less than 5
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Thank you, guys. I appreciate the help. It sounds to me like this is basically because my mechanic is so unfamiliar with my Tracker that he has no idea what he's doing. You would all recommend getting a second opinion? Maybe even taking it to a Suzuki dealer?

Again, thank you. I can't tell you how much help just reading you guys discussing this has been.
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Yeah, get a second opinion of someone who is used to dealing with these.
If you are lucky you might get to a dealer and instead of paying the company for the job you could get a Suzuki mechanic to do that for you for less... All I can say is this, read read and read!!!! You need to make sure the mechanic knows what you are talking about so he doesnt jack up the price, you just need to make it look like you can DO it but don't want to. Keep looking there are decent and honest to god mechanics you just need to dig deeper for them, and glad we have all been of help, it's a pleasure for all of us!
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Last one I did 3.5hrs, using air tools and the assistance of 2 Gdaughters (18 & 19), incl an old timers nap while the girls finished the unbuttoning..... Philip
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