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Old 04-17-2010, 02:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Transfer case fluid what kind?

Ok before the flaming starts about search function, I already did this and read through lots of posts and did not find the answer. So, got a 2002 tracker 2.0 5 speed 4x4. What fluid for the Transfer case? Manual I think states the same as transmission, which should be some kind of syncro type? So I got Royal Purple Syncro transmission fluid. This right? Thanks.
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Ok before the flaming starts about search function, I already did this and read through lots of posts and did not find the answer. So, got a 2002 tracker 2.0 5 speed 4x4. What fluid for the Transfer case? Manual I think states the same as transmission, which should be some kind of syncro type? So I got Royal Purple Syncro transmission fluid. This right? Thanks.
I guess your problem is not knowing how to "phrase your search", because I've answered this question before, so I KNOW there are answers out there.

Royal Purple is a brand - the brand is of little relevance and can be considered personal preference (I use Mobil1 Synthetic if it matters), what is relevant is the weight of the oil (75w90) and the type (GL4), both of which are stated in the manual - there's actually a chart that allows I believe three different weights depending on temperature, but 75w90 runs from the low temp up to a reasonable figure.

Let's talk about GL4 and GL5 oils now as GL4 oils can be quite difficult to find.

GL5 oils are intended for use with hypoid gears such as those found in a differential and contain more extreme pressure (EP) additives than a GL4 - note that word - more - GL4 oils contain EP additives, but not as much as a GL5.

Some GL5 oils use sulphur as an additive and use of such an oil in a manual transmission or transfer case may destroy the brass synchros - other GL5 oils are "yellow metal friendly" and will not cause problems and may be used in a transmission/transfer case safely.

So - is your royal purple the right weight and the right type?
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Thanks. So what would be a proper phrase or word for this kind of search? How about a sticky where all the lubes and other common maintenance items are listed especially in a de-coded fashion. Especially seeing how GM likes to use their own terminology. Like next on the list will be replacement brake rotors. Are there any better ones that don't seem to wear out so fast? I've never owned a vehicle whose brake rotors wear out as fast as these do.]
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I usually use Mobil 1 or Amsoil but seem to have a hard time finding Amsoil here. So I found Royal Purple Synchromax which is what Royal Purple has on their web site as the cross reference for this gen Tracker/Vitara. So, I am guessing this is the right stuff.
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If Suzuki recommended Royal Purple Synchromax or Royal Purple provided more detail on their datasheet - then maybe - but without that, not in my transmission or transfer case.

From their datasheet ...

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Synchromax™ is recommended for manual transmissions that specify an automatic transmission fluid or motor oil. It is also ideal for 4x4 transfer cases and / or 2-cycle motorcycle gear boxes
Suzuki specifies neither automatic transmission fluid nor motor oil for their transmissions & transfer cases - what they specify is a heavier 75w90 oil - but - it's your transfer case, not mine ...

Just a suggestion - Royal Purple also markets conventional gear oils, for example their Max Gear PS - have a look at the data sheets for the two oils - you'll find that the SynchroMax is a much lighter oil that the 75w90 recommended by SUzuki.
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Isn't the fluid for the 5 speed suppose to be specific for brass syncro gears? Transfer case I don't know why you can't use normal gear oil. I know my Toyota's call for normal gear oil for the transmission/transfer case.
If you check the cross reference page on Royal Purple it calls for Royal Purple Syncromax for this gen Tracker/Vitara. For the gen 1 it calls for the other style gear oil.?? I did not find the leak that I thought I had at the front output shaft of the transfer and the fluid level was still good so I did not change the seal/oil. I checked my transmission and found it dark so I drained it and got alot of fine metal dust on the magnet and a bigger chunk or two:-( I replaced two bearings in the transmission last year, so I don't know what's going on. Maybe I messed up the install or I could not tell that the other remaining bearings where bad after all. I will change the fluid again in a couple of months and see what I find.
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What would you consider "normal gear oil"?
Is it different to oil specific for "brass synchro gears"?
By the way - in a Tracker, it's brass synchro rings - and whilst a first gen Tracker does not have synchro rings in the transfer case, the second gen Tracker does.

I would think there's an easy way around all of this - you get the owner's manual or the service manual for the vehicle, and you see what the manufacturer specifies - in this case it's a 75w90 GL4 for both the 5 speed manual transmission and the transfer case.
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My owners manual says to use Syncrhomesh Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. 12345349 or equivolant).
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So - the question now becomes ...
- is Royal Purple Synchromax equivalent to GM Synchromesh?

I don't drive a Tracker, I drive a GrandVitara - same vehicle, different badge - I have the owner's manual and factory service manual from my GV - 75w90 GL4 is what's recommended, and based on Royal Purple's data sheets, Syncromax is a lot lighter lubricant.
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I wonder what GM recommends for the first gen one?
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I wonder what GM recommends for the first gen one?
I can't tell you what GM recommends, but Suzuki is the same 75w90
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