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Old 11-05-2009, 12:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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just wondering my grand vitara failed on the metal brake pipes along the chassie.
does the copper pipe size 3/16" sound right or with it being suzuki like most other stuff its a stupid size thats main dealer only
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3/16" diameter, but certainly NOT copper. You are looking at a probable coating (cadmium?) over mild steel tubing. Put a magnet to it to confirm. The only other material serviceable in brake plumbing situations would be stainless steel. Silver in color and typically (depending on grade) non-magnetic.

The tubing is standard size, but the FITTINGS are in all likelihood metric thread / size.
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3/16" diameter, but certainly NOT copper. You are looking at a probable coating (cadmium?) over mild steel tubing. Put a magnet to it to confirm. The only other material serviceable in brake plumbing situations would be stainless steel. Silver in color and typically (depending on grade) non-magnetic.

The tubing is standard size, but the FITTINGS are in all likelihood metric thread / size.
im fairly sure its copper pipe that the motor factors do it could be a mix tho.
i was wanting the stuff with the green coating but cant get that unless i order it in then aparently its a pig to shape.
pipes i have to replace is the run from the engine from the begining of chassie to rear to brake balance then over the rear diff to both hubs.
this is the pipe that is supplied over here.

Brake pipe tubing.
Supplied in 25 foot (7.6 metre) reels
in either copper-nickel or copper.
Both conform to BS2871.

other idear is to sleave it in a rubber tube to keep it dry.
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max do the main dealers do the oem pipe pre made so i could walk in and buy it allready shaped and cut to size to as to say bolt of then on
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For the life of me, I've never seen or heard of copper being utilized in brake lines. It simply won't withstand the working pressures nor any heat generated from components in close proximity. Be that as it may, in the US we have several options for repairing / replacing brake lines.

1. Aftermarket line SECTIONS are available at (chain type) stores pre-flared with the fittings captured / attached on the lines, in various lengths typically from 1 to 6 feet. They come straight and we bend them to fit. If we require longer lengths, then couplers are added between sections.

2. We source good / used sections.

3. We procure OE (pre-bent) lines from local dealership parts departments.

4. We task a brake specialty auto shop to custom mfg our lines per sample. Special benders and double flare, flaring tools are needed in support.

Good news. I've got the Suzuki Parts Catalog in front of me and all of the lines are assigned part numbers, so yes...you can source / buy them that way as well from Suzuki it would appear.

I can post a diagram and those part numbers if you need, but require this info; what year GV, and ABS or non-ABS.
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hi max its a 2002 grand vitara 5 door with the rhz engine no abs or anything fancy on it
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Right hand drive though, huh. That means that the brake booster / pedal is on the opposite side of our US models. That will throw off at LEAST all under hood hard brake line part styles.

Do the lines heading to the rear brake go along the right hand side of the vehicle? Ours do. MAYBE they'll be the same as yours.

Give me a few to shoot the manual pics...
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yes the pipes go down the right hand side of the car looking at the boot etc.
brake servo is on the right side as well.
brake balance is also fitted to the right hand side of the axel
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Here's the best I can do. I think that you are looking for line #20. 51510-65D60. At least that is the US equivalent to yours.





I checked a good US OE source and it's not carried.
https://www.trademotion.com/partloca...Grand%20vitara

Also, the US catalog shows 2002 GV ALL w/ABS, so that is the info I provided above. Your best bet is a local full service brake shop.
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Craig - I can get access to the Suzukis worldwide parts catalogue - give me a VIN or chassis number and a description of the pipe and I'll get you a part number.

I drive a RHD gasolene engined GV without ABS, there are two (2) brake pipes from front to back running down the inside of rightside chassis rail.
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