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Old 04-04-2007, 09:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Its been snowing latelely and I tried shifting my 99 G Vitara into 4wd L and H while driving and its stuck. It won't budge. I've pulled, banged and beat it as hard as I can but nothing happens. It runs fine on 2WD but with the weather, I'll be skating if I drive it. Can any one gimme some advice before I take it in so I don't get screwed by the mechanics?
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You've tried shifting with the car at rest, right? A complete stop is sometimes in order.

Often they are difficult to shift IF not used in a long time when attempting to engage while moving, although it SHOULD by design.
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did you check the oil level in the transfer case, if it is low or was not
change for to long time , it could make shifting from 2wd, to 4wd,
dificult, also if you are not using your this unit on 4wd,once in a wile
it could be hard to shift
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This is precisely the reason I recommend exersizing the 4wd from time to time all year long. I do it every week or 2 in my XL7 to be sure its working right in the winter when I need it.
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Hi

It is recommended to drive in 4WD once a month to circulate the lubricants on the front drive train - but not on hard pavement. Do it in mud, sand, a grassy field, or snow - to allow the tyres to "slip" while turning, as the front wheel will follow a different track to the rear wheel. If on a hard surface the wheels cannot "slip" then transmission damage can result. It is also not advisable to shift from 2WD to 4WD at a speed over 60mph.

You say you tried to shift from 4WD Hi to 4WD Lo, whilst moving. This is not recommended (See owners handbook)as the design is to only perform this when stationary - so keep a lookout ahead so that you can stop and change before you are on a hazard that demands 4Lo. Trying to change while on the move can result in serious damage to the transfer box as the grating sound will tell you - as I'm not a mechanic it would mean me having to go to my local dealer mechanic. Ouch!

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How about what the manual says about wet conditions and 4WD?

I don't remember the exact words, and my manual is in swedish, but I think it said not to use 4WD when roads are wet. (because something might be damaged). Is that for real?
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Wet conditions? How wet is wet?

On a good road with "normal" rain,there is usually plenty of grip, which if you used 4WD on the GV would place a strain on the transmission as the system on the GV is designed to give maximum grip in off-road conditions. It is a different system to an Audi Quattro which is designed with limited slip for roads and not for off road use. If the road is flooded or has a poor surface then 4WD can be used with care - but if you flip into 4WD at the first sign of any wet, then expect problems.

Perhaps in July when I am on the Telemark trail I will need 4WD permanently??

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Thanks for the info. Not used to 4WD's, need to learn everything
Only had FWD until now (Saab 99 and a Volvo 850)

Any sites with good tips for 4WD driving? (and RWD)

I'll stick with 2WD in the summertime :-)
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you can do it on hard pavement. Just don't turn tightly. You can turn but not 90 degrees. You won't hurt anything.. The 4wd system is VERY strong. You won't break it. I guarantee it..


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It is recommended to drive in 4WD once a month to circulate the lubricants on the front drive train - but not on hard pavement. Do it in mud, sand, a grassy field, or snow - to allow the tyres to "slip" while turning, as the front wheel will follow a different track to the rear wheel. If on a hard surface the wheels cannot "slip" then transmission damage can result. It is also not advisable to shift from 2WD to 4WD at a speed over 60mph.

You say you tried to shift from 4WD Hi to 4WD Lo, whilst moving. This is not recommended (See owners handbook)as the design is to only perform this when stationary - so keep a lookout ahead so that you can stop and change before you are on a hazard that demands 4Lo. Trying to change while on the move can result in serious damage to the transfer box as the grating sound will tell you - as I'm not a mechanic it would mean me having to go to my local dealer mechanic. Ouch!

Good luck

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HI XL

I am sure you are correct - but in my handbook it clearly states "not recommended". I suspect the problem could be that after a few miles it may be forgotten and a tight turn made. For my wallets sake if it states "not recommended" then I don't do it unless absolutely necessary.

Aren't I a "goody two shoes"?

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